JM

Hi All,

Our company has not finished modeling its Business Processes and what has been modeled was done using different symbol sets and diagramming tools.... (Powerpoint, Visio, BizAgi, ....)

I had high expectation on the ARIS Express as an entry level diagramming tool to tease companies to later become customers using the professional tools. Finally a good case against the proliferation of tools and symbol sets and a way to harmonize and consolidate all BP modeling efforts into ARIS. 

If there is one thing that we standardized, it was the symbol set, for which we choose the BPMN standard. Unfortunately, now I found out that this notation is not supported by ARIS Express ???

Please tell me I missed it and where I can select a Business Process Diagram template with BPMN ...

Thanks in advance and

Best Regards,

Johan

 

by Sebastian Stein
Posted on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 18:09

BPMN 2 support will be part of ARIS Express as soon as the standard has stabilised a little bit.

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by Michael Fehse
Posted on Wed, 11/04/2009 - 18:04

In reply to by aris321

BPMN has become THE standard in ease of use Process Modelling. So from my point of view, it is absolutely necessary to have it in ARIS Express.

Your statement " ... we have it as soon as the standard has stabilised a little bit ..." is quite unsatisfying.

I think, a more precise dating is a must for the community.

 

So please let us know more details about the feature launch plans.

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by Johan Mutsaerts Author
Posted on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 18:27

Good to hear !

Can we have BPMN 1.1 already now then ? 

Please....

 

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by Sebastian Stein
Posted on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 20:07

No, we decided to go directly for BPMN 2.

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by Uwe Roediger
Posted on Wed, 10/21/2009 - 08:37

Dear Johan,

I'd like to learn a bit more about your approach to use BPMN. You write that you have standardized the symbol set by using BPMN. Do you focus only on the BPMN symbols or is the complete standard relevant for you? And do you use this notation for high level business process modeling or to describe technical processes for automation processes? Also your reasons for your decision to use the BPMN notation would be very interesting for us.

I'd really appreciate if you could share your thoughts about BPMN usage with us.

Best regards

Uwe

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by Uwe Roediger
Posted on Thu, 11/05/2009 - 07:59

Hi Michael,

BPMN 2 in ARIS Express will be available with one of the next service releases. A more concrete answer cannot be given at the moment, because we are discussion technical issues at the moment coming from different capabilities in ARIS Business Designer compared with ARIS Express (e.g. in ARIS Express there are no occurences/definitions or assignments available to implement certain BPMN 2 features). But I'm convinced that these issues will be solved soon and hopefully (but not 100 % sure) the mentioned service release will be in Q1 next year. 

But one question from my side, are you really convinced that BPMN will be the major standard for EASY process modeling? From my point of view, and I was involved in the work on the new standard, BPMN 2 adressess more the bridge to execution, but the acceptance at business user side is quite small. What are the major points where you estimate that BPMN is stronger than ARIS for business process modeling outside the technical or execution scope?

Regards

Uwe

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by Frank Weyand
Posted on Fri, 02/26/2010 - 16:11

Hi Michael,

just to inform you: Express 2.0, released today, supports BPMN 2.0 :-)

Bye,

Frank

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