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Hello,



I am sorry, but there is something which is a little bit confusing for me.



We examine and use Aris-Express (2.3).



My interest is to find out the price of Aris-Express.

I have expected to find a price of the full-version of Aris-Express.

(The 'get the full-version' within Aris-Express shows some products)



I found a lot of Aris-related products on

http://www.softwareag.com/de/products/az/default.asp

So I get a little bit confused, because what I found was not what I expected to find.



Within the Aris-Express we use mainly the 'Business process model' and the 'BPMN'.



The site

http://www.softwareag.com/de/products/aris_platform/modeling/default.asp

shows models which are used in different Aris-products



Okay. This helps a little bit.

Well, so we need products which are include in

...are available in

- ARIS Business Architect & Designer,

- ARIS IT Architect & Designer,

- ARIS SOA Architect & Designer

- ARIS Business Architect for SAP.

(BMPN)

The reason of my question is that we need an html-export. This must be part of the product.



Please could someone enlighten me:



Which (commercial) Aris-product can be used (bought) under the following restrictions:

- BPMN must be available

- html-Export must be available

- 'Business process model' (Geschäftsprozess) must be available.



A nice add-on would be to to know the price (or a price list)



Kind regards



Manfred

 

by Frank Weyand
Posted on Mon, 04/18/2011 - 17:48

Hi Manfred.

Actually, ARIS Express does not cost a cent. Good news so far ;-)

I think the best would be to fill out this form to get a sales person in contact with you.

Bye,

Frank

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by Manfred Kiss Author
Posted on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 09:44

In reply to by Frank Weyand

Hi,



Well, I used the recommended form (http://www.ariscommunity.com/aris-express/full-version)



But unfortunately I did not get an answer.(Since more than one week).

I repeat my request again and did not get an answer.



I am sorry, so I try to get a answer via this forum



The problem was (short description): We would like to design business processes.

Aris-Express has two modeltypes which we evaluated and decided to use: business process (Geschäftsprozess) and BPMN. But there is no html export (for the model) available.



We need an Aristool which provides

- BPMN must be available

- html-Export must be available

- 'Business process model' (Geschäftsprozess) must be available.



Maybe the 'Business Architect and Designer' is the right tool, but the available pdf

http://www.softwareag.com/corporate/images/SAG_ARIS_BusArchDesign_FS_Oct10-web_tcm16-78556.pdf

does not make a statement about a html export of the model.



So the question is: which Aris-Tool should be our target.



Kind regards



Manfred

 

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by Manfred Kiss Author
Posted on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 07:29

Dear Frank,

thank you for your answer.

Seems to be the best way to use the form

Kind regards

Manfred

 

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by Sebastian Stein
Posted on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 10:06

Usually, the setup looks as follows:

  • some key users have ARIS Business Architect to administer the ARIS repository, define modelling conventions (enable or disable certain notations like BPMN or EPC), etc.
  • all other users modelling or changing models use ARIS Business Designer
  • all other users only needing read access to the models get served by ARIS Business Publisher -> this is not a simple HTML export, but instead active web pages usually integrated in an existing Intranet (with single sign on, etc.)

I hope this gives you an idea how a possible setup might look like.

If you are unfamiliar with the ARIS product family, it might be worth to attend ProcessWorld. There, you can get demos of the various products, but also listen how other companies are using ARIS Platform.

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by Manfred Kiss Author
Posted on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 11:43

In reply to by leo24

Dear Sebastian,



thank you for your answer.



Now it is more clear.



The Aris-products shown at http://www.softwareag.com/de/products/aris_platform/modeling/default.asp

describe the standards in relation to an Aris-product.



Some products ara able to include BPMN and EPC, which is very fine.

What I named with business process modelling seems to be EPC !



So we have to find out which product of this limited choice can export the model as html (not only as image, pdf or rtf)



Why a html export is neccessary ?

If you design complex processes you will have subprocesses. A subprocess is linked in a process so that you can jump into the subprocess to examine it.



So we need a html export of the main process include all subprocesses.



Kind regards



Manfred

 

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by Sebastian Stein
Posted on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 11:54

Hi Manfred,

yes, EPC is business process modelling.

All products mentioned above support all the notations. So you can create a repository for BPMN and EPCs in ARIS Business Architect, created and change those models ARIS Business Designer, and publish them to your Intranet using ARIS Business Publisher.

There are some more specific notations and frameworks like TOGAF or ArchiMate. If you want to use them, you need special licenses. However, basic stuff like EPC, BPMN, data modelling, org modelling, etc. is included in the standard licenses.

About this HTML thing: If you publish your model repository using ARIS Business Publisher, a user is able to browse the complete hierarchy of models. So he can start at a high level EPC and drill down to all sub-processes.

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by Manfred Kiss Author
Posted on Wed, 04/27/2011 - 13:00

In reply to by Stephan Freudl

Dear Sebastian,



thank you again for your answer.



It seems to be that ARIS Business Architect & Designer is 'our friend'. (Include BPMN and EPC)

And we need to receive a license for the ARIS Business Publisher.



I will try again the form http://www.ariscommunity.com/aris-express/full-version

to get price-information.



Kind regards



Manfred



PS:

I think it would be a good idea to publish a modell as a html-example for each Aris-product shown in

http://www.softwareag.com/de/products/aris_platform/modeling/default.asp

So the potential customer can get a feeling about what he will get.

 

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by Peter Francis
Posted on Tue, 12/03/2013 - 02:03

I have also requested pricing info using the online form (twice), and have not had a reply.  

Peter

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by Jeana Catempo
Posted on Thu, 05/15/2014 - 09:04

Dear ARIS representative,

 

What is the difference between ARIS Full Version with ARIS 9.6 ??  And how much the cost of each?  Awaiting for your response.

 

 

Jeana

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