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by Mr. Terry Bunes in group We Love BPM
Posted: 2012-08-02
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I would like to know how other people are using cause and effect diagram in ARIS.  

This is our situation: 

  • we currently have multiple EPC models containing Weakpoint objects that identify problem areas in the process
  • we would like to view all the Weakpoint objects from each of the EPC's in one model
  • this model should also show causal relationships between the Weakpoint objects (i.e problem A contributes to problem B etc.)

I would normally use a cause and effect diagram to communicate the above however when I look at the available objects for this model type in ARIS I don't see the Weakpoint object as an option.

This leads me to question:

  1. Should we be using a different object to depict some type of issue or failure in the process?
  2. Should we configure the Cause and Effect diagrams to accept Weakpoint objects?
  3. Should we be using a different model type to show casual relationship between weakpoints?

Looking forward to your suggestions..........Terry

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by Mr. Alexander Cherednichenko on Thu, 2012/08/02 - 9:47am

 

Hi!
Concerning your questions:
1. Use one type of object
2. You can’t configure CE diagram at present ARIS version, maybe in 2013
3. There are different ways:
3.1. You can use different models but in this case you should duplicate your work. 
3.2. You can use “heretical” approach – you can create new symbol for objective type object, it should looks like weak point object by graphic (you can use ARIS symbol editor). Then you can use objective type for two models and in both cases it will be looks like weak point. Of course you should fix such moments in Modeling Convention. 
Good luck!
 
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by Mr. Terry Bunes on Sat, 2012/08/04 - 1:51am

Thanks Alex,

Indeed, we will be using one object type to represent issues (currently using Weakpoint).  

***If I want to show the causal relationships between these Weakponts, what model should I use? ***

I assumed that a Cause and Effect diagram (or Fishbone) would be best however that diagram type does not allow me to use the process weakpoint object.  Has anyone tried to show something like this?

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by Mr. Boris Borchev on Wed, 2012/08/08 - 10:18am

Why don't you use the Risk Diagram? The object "weak point" in the EPC is of type risk. In the Risk Diagram you can also involve the "risk category" object to group and categorize the weak points and in this way to model the sources of process problems. So, you will get a kind of Ishikawa diagram.

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by Dr. Ivo Velitchkov on Fri, 2012/08/24 - 11:29am

Speaking of Cause & Effect diagrams, one of the things I've been missing in ARIS is Stock&Flow diagrams, or at least Causal Loop Diagrams.