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I understand it is on intent that there are no implicit connections in ARIS express or are I am just not able/allowed to see them?

When I create a connection between domain and IT system in a system landscape model,

then move the IT system on top and completely inside the domain object, the connecition vanishes.

Ok so far, if you think of the implicit connection functionality in ABD/ABA.

Problem here is, I can't see if the connection is still exists and if it will be there when I later want to import the model to ABA.

 

Further problem and this is in my opinion a bug, is when you then move the IT system away from the domain object again, the connection doesn't re-appear.

System: Windows XP 2002 SP 3; English; Java1.6.0_13

by Frank Weyand
Posted on Fri, 07/31/2009 - 08:54

 Hi,

hmm.. this is a side effect of an intended behavior.

Example:

1.) Create a domain

2.) create an IT system next to it

3.) move the IT system in the domain

Thus, the IT-System is embedded and a (invisible) connection exists. If you drag the IT system right now out of the domain again, you do not want to have the IT system connected to the domain anymore.

Therefore, we remove the connection.

Bye,

Frank

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by Mike Steyn
Posted on Sun, 08/02/2009 - 12:03

I can understand the rationale that if one drags the IT System object out from the superior object that it is embeded in, one could assume that one does not want the relationship anymore.  There is however another apparent limitation.  I cannot seem to find a way to edit the attributes of the implied relationship.  The only way appears to first create the object outside the superior object, then to link them to create the relationship, then to edit the attributes of the relationship and only then embed the object inside the other object.  The problem is once you have moved it inside the other object one can apparently not view or edit the attributes or the relationship.  If you then move the embedded object out of the superior object to view the relationship and its attributes, it is no longer there.  I think this is a fairly serious flaw.  I may on the other hand just be missing the option to view and edit the implied relationship.  If there is another way to do so could someone just point it out to me.

Thanks.

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by Frank Weyand
Posted on Sun, 08/02/2009 - 22:33

Hi Mike,

well, actually, you are right. Express does not give you the possibility to maintain connections of "hidden" connections.

Maybe it would be better to leave the connection and not to delete it. We will discuss that issue.

Bye,

Frank

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by Richard Gilyead
Posted on Mon, 08/03/2009 - 15:40

This is an example of where behaviour should be consistent between Express and the full ARIS product. If it does things differently, confusion will surely follow.

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by Donald Dillon
Posted on Mon, 11/02/2009 - 21:17

Perhaps I am misunderstanding this, but I think I am having the same problem in an org chart.

Our format is dept, role, person all in one object.

I modeled the org unit and tried to place a role in it, but it does not make a connection, I can draw a connection between the symbols, but that defeats the purpose of nesting the objects

Is this deliberate?  Will make some users complain about functinoality differences between AE and professional versions.

thanks

donald

 

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by Frank Weyand
Posted on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 09:49

Hi Donald,

actually, I consider this as a bug.

I entered in into our bug tracking system and hand it over to our development department.

 Bye,

Frank

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