Just want to know which Aris software to go for whether it is elements, advanced or enterprise. I have a requirement to draw the process flow diagrams for the trade related businesses and concepts. Kindly help to suggest.
your early response is truly appreciated.
thank you in advance.
Regards,
Vishwas V Nadig
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by Alexander Cherednichenko
Posted on Tue, 01/05/2021 - 18:37
Hi, Elements... I would not suggest even look at this, and it is absolutely useless. You cannot use it for anything more or less serious. Advanced... is a good option looking for your purposes. It is almost the Enterprise version but a little bit neuter - there is no analysis, no many scripts, no a lot of administration options as e.g. creating variants, no portal customization, etc. But in general, it is already ARIS )) Enterprise... you have two options - to host it on your servers and the Cloud version. Almost the same price (I mean the same price between Cloud and Standalone, not with Advanced), full functionality, but in your case it is excess. Good luck )
Adding to above, Any idea how much it costs for the Aris Advanced Licensed version and is there any process to follow to get it? Also how many users per license?
Thanks for your replay. However, I disagree with Elements being useless. Elements is a starter edition with basic functionality and low complexity. So it is good for people, that want to start modeling processes, org structures etc. My recommendation is to start a free trial for Elements and Advanced, attend the next onboarding session (https://ariscommunity.com/events/getting-started-with-aris) and decide on what fits better your demand.
You can disagree, Tom, but you are telling this just because you work for SAG, and it seems, ARIS Cloud product manager. So I would be really surprised if you tell something different.
But the reality for lesser mortals is different. You would never show any, just any, a successful project delivered with ARIS Elements. And to suggest to the client using ARIS Elements as minimum irresponsibly.
But when you talk about some abstract "people", that they want to start something... start for what? To get experience with 5% of the ARIS functionality? What they would do with such "expertise": to develop their carrier, or to promote ARIS in the organization? And what the value of such people would be for the organization? If someone would tell me that he has only experience with ARIS Elements, it means he'd never seen real ARIS at all, and his value for the client/project is zero.
I do respect your opinion on ARIS Elements. You are talking about not being able to delivering a project with ARIS Elements. I can imagine, that the mere notion of a "project" implies you are up to something bigger than what ARIS Elements is targeting. Elements is for starters who do not have much experience or consultants and need to produce something simple fast. Enterprise is for organizations that endeavour to implement a process-oriented management model and comes with all the possibilities to implement governance procedures. Advanced sits between these extremes. You are definitely a very experienced consultant - one can tell by your many invaluable contributions in this forum - and I understand that you would not seriously consider doing a project with Elements.Whoever is advanced enough to hire you will have a use-case for Advanced or Enterprise. So I fully agree with your analysis of the original post, that he should go for at least the Advanced package. The requirements as far as they were disclosed justify at least the Advanced version.
I understand your targeting of Elements, but what I was going to say, that any 'tryer' of Elements will get a rather negative experience with the tool. I just think it is out of topic already.
And the problem is, that most of these beginners, including companies, usually have only one try. One. It means, that all potential clients coming to the product through ARIS Elements are dead-end. Of course, I do not have the statistics of how many clients were converted from basic registration in ARIS Elements, and then let say upgraded to Advanced or higher. It would be cool to see such statistics (if not in absolute numbers, then a least in %), maybe I'm wrong and there are hundreds of Elements registrations/a day. And then hundreds of conversions.
a couple of more remarks: If it is just you "drawing" a few processes, Advanced may be the way to go. If you are going to produce this not just as a one-time effort, more people are involved, those process models become a company asset and will be maintained in the future, reviewed, approved, managed, and the trade related processes are just the beginning of a larger initiative - then consider the Enterprise version for your enterprise and not just your department.
